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Edited by Noah Shachtman | Contact

"Future Combat" Fattens Up

One of the big ideas behind the Army's massive modernization effort, Future Combat Systems, was to make American troops more mobile – able to get around the world in a matter of days or weeks, instead of the months that are needed now.

nlosc.jpgThe first step: slim down the service's cannon and armored vehicles. Today, it takes a gargantuan C-17 or C-5 transport plane to lug a single, 32-ton Paladin 155 mm howitzer. Army planners wanted the Paladin's next-gen replacement to weigh in at 19 tons or less – so one could fit inside a much smaller C-130 transport plane, instead.

But now, that's not going to happen, Inside Defense reports. The site has gotten a hold of a draft Army press release which announces that Future Combat System's Manned Ground Vehicles (MGVs) will weigh 24 tons, not 19.

The Army insists that the MGVs will still be able to be carried in a C-130, to "provide a wider range of crossable bridges; improve tactical mobility, enable the reduction of the logistics footprint; and facilitate greater strategic deployability." But it doesn't look like the vehicle will be "ready to fight when it lands," explains Inside Defense editor Dan Dupont. A bunch of material – including armor, perhaps – will have to be added, first.

The add-on process will only take 30 minutes, the Army insists. But given that the Army was promising 19-ton MGVs not too long ago, I'd take that claim with about 5 tons of salt.

"If it's 25 tons today," Army Training and Doctrine Command chief Lt. Gen Kevin Byrnes told Defense News in February, "I guarantee it will be 30 tons next year, because when there's no sizing constraint, we will have more good ideas … and it will cause that thing to grow."

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try using south african armoured vehicles they are cheap easy to handle and are built for any type of terrain,us forces humvees have a weakness, nam ely not enough sloping angles to deflect blast of explosions. another problem is that they are to close to the ground and flat sided allowing blast force to fully impact and that in itself is bone jarring, sa vehicles can withstand huge blasts simply due to design, what is wrong with usa, are ur troops just simply expendable dont think heavy, think angles and deflection it will save a lot of good guys lives.usa is a super power think like one

Posted by: eugene van vuuren at March 3, 2006 4:57 AM


Light, Air-Deployable Tanks are useful for forced entry or in terrain that will not support heavy armor. However, in any match between heavy armor and light armor, the heavy armor wins hands down. Although there are technical improvements, there is no way to change the simple basic primise that heavy beats medium beats light. Our greatest strategic vulnerability is loss & injury of American life. Heavy armor protects soldiers. Period. Combined arms wins battles. Infantry unsupported by Armor gets shot up. Armor unsupported by infantry gets shot up. Armor and Infantry working together, supported by Artillery and Engineers wins. Air power is not a substitute. It is flying artillery or flying reconnaissance. Shock & Awe did not beat the Baathists in 2003. Tanks and Infantry with ample fire support did.

Posted by: Maximus at August 17, 2005 12:47 PM


Hey people I served in IRAQ and I think that our soldiers are doing a damn good job. We can't turn back time to make the wrong right, but this is time and now to learn from our mistakes and stand correct the guys that planned this war in the pentagon. We should have from the start cut off all entry and exit from Syria,Iran, and Saudi Arabia and we wouldn't have this major FUBAR in the first place. What good leader would send his troops to war without the proper planning, training and protection and equipement to a war. Answer "someone who has not ever fought in this type of urban tactical warfare., and a bunch of Intelligence geeks who don't know their a-- from ----. Assist, Protect and Defend MP CORP "REGULATORS" PROUD TO BE US ARMY

Posted by: D. Denman at August 15, 2005 10:42 PM


My recall is that Crusader was terminated to divert Defense budget money to FCS. It was the opinion of some analysts that Paladin was adequate to fulfill the Crusader role.

Posted by: Steve C at August 12, 2005 2:08 AM


Didn't "Crusader" die a sudden death due to being "Overweight? Guess Politics are still alive. If we had continued with Crusader, it would have been in the field by now.....

Posted by: Dan G at August 11, 2005 8:50 AM


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