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Killer Drone, Dead; New Bomber Lives

Joint Unmanned Combat Air Systems -- the shared Air Force and Navy program to develop a killer drone -- has been cancelled, Inside Defense is reporting. "Instead, the Defense Department will begin work this year on a next-generation long-range strike aircraft, accelerating its bomber modernization plans by nearly two decades in an effort to quickly enhance the Air Force’s effectiveness across the Asia-Pacific region."

x45a_overhead.jpgJ-UCAS was supposed to produce an armed drone that could knock out enemy air defenses, conduct surveillance, jam enemy radars. On the side, it might do some strike missions. But it would mainly pave the way for manned aircraft.

This new project would focus more directly on taking the enemy out, Inside Defense says.

"The action to accelerate work on a new bomber tracks closely with a recommendation last fall for a new, long-range strike aircraft program made by Andrew Marshall, the Pentagon’s director of net assessment, who called for developing capabilities necessary to deter China."

That means striking at targets thousands of miles from any U.S. bases, Robert Work, with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, noted in a recent presentation. "Reach — the combination of range and persistence — is especially important in the Pacific theater of operations."

"U.S. Strategic Command, which has responsibility for an evolving concept dubbed 'global strike,' strongly advocated the need for a new bomber" to obtain that reach, according to Inside Defense.

Here's how Globalsecurity.org describes the concept:

The new capabilities ensure that the Air Force can strike a variety of targets, including hardened or deeply buried targets (HDBTs) as required in non-permissive environments... Capabilities should provide the ability to operate at extended distances from the theater of conflict with an effective and flexible payload (e.g., nuclear and conventional precision/non-precision munitions). Desired attributes for GS capabilities are responsiveness, persistence, survivability (including lethal self-protection), lethality, connectivity, and affordability... A new/modernized bomber aircraft may satisfy the proposed capability. Currently, all milestones for the program are tentative, but for planning purposes, a development effort could start as early as 2006 with an Initial Operational Capability (IOC) in 2015 and Full Operational Capability (FOC) in 2020.

At first glance, it sounds like an updated version of Cold War doctrine -- with this new plane standing in for ICBMs or for the B-52 fleet (which, incidentally, j just got cut in half). But this time around, those global strikers could still wind up being robotic, Inside Defense notes.

Three capabilities are expected to be essential for the Next Generation Long Range Strike Aircraft program: the ability to remain airborne for many, many hours; the means to fly very long distances; and the ability to carry significant numbers of bombs. The importance of these factors is expected to make the case for an unmanned system.

For the last several years, Pentagon fringe-science arm Darpa has been working on a program somewhat along these lines. The Falcon, or Force Application and Launch from the Continental United States, project aims to fire a bunker-busting bomb into near-space, and then send it crashing into a target more than 3,000 miles away, at four times the speed of sound.

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Interestingly, BAE just unveiled a UCAV dubbed "CORAX." At the same time, Jane's reports "the UK has terminated plans for a future manned combat aircraft and is working closely with the US on 'Project Churchill'," which focuses on the "the joint, airborne command and control of pilotless combat air vehicles from 2015 onwards".

So... U.S. cancels a UCAV programm and announces plans for a new bomber. Meanwhile, the U.K. cancels a new-manned plane, announces a UCAV program and indicates its will be working closely with the U.S. in the arena of unmanned flight.

Could it be that budget pressures and politics are pushing the U.S. and U.K. to cooperate and share development costs of new aircraft?

Posted by: glenn at January 16, 2006 10:12 PM


Ah, no...you'll note; I wrote "what they CAN be"...not what they are touting. You are correct, "walrus" is NOT Lighter-than-Air, nor solar; and, given their entrenched, stupid stranglehold on using fabrics or laminates for hull materials, yeah, they'd still need a hanger. It is typical the(airship)-world-is-flat-and-this-is-the-way-we've-always-done-it-before stuff.

(Clue: if it looks like a blimp and "flies" like a blimp and wallows around in the sky like a blimp, it's probably.....a blimp. And worth about seventeen cents on a good day, and if it still needs a runway (WALRUS AND EVERY OTHER "HYBRID"), it's worth less than that.

taken down with triple? nah. first you gots to SEE em, then you gots to put enough into em to bring em down, and you can only do that if they sit still and LET you.......

Posted by: campbell at January 15, 2006 6:39 AM


Well, that was pretty and all...But I think ya lied a bit there Campbell.

The Walrus is not a light-then-air Airship, its a Heavier-then-air Airship, meaning without engines its going nowhere, and engines use fuel, as well as produce heat. And they would need a hanger to do major clean-ups & overhauls...but for the better part of there life they shouldn't need one.
They can be shot down by triple, regardless if its stealthy...but as far as I know the WALRUS isn't going to be stealthy...i might be wrong on that one though. Also (to the best of my knowledge) it is not have solar panels on it, so it wont be powered by the sun.

I think your taking the best traits from two separate Airships...and combining them into one.
Meaning: WALRUS & HAA

Posted by: Murc at January 15, 2006 12:16 AM


How much did J-UCAS make by not having to produce any drones I wonder?

Posted by: Jerome E. Goodwin Sr. at January 14, 2006 7:02 PM


Gentlemen, what you need here is an aircraft that has the STEALTH, RANGE, ENDURANCE, SURVIVABILTY, AND PAYLOAD(WEAPONS CAPABILITY) OF latest nuclear submarines. An aircraft that can land or take off VTOL from any open field, or water surface. One that can carry over 100 tons (thats a LOT of cruise missles/UCAVs) An aircraft that needs no refueling, no ground crews, no hangers. One that can be sent over oceans, over contininents; which can then linger, undetected, IN THEATER. One that virtually cannot be taken down by ground fire, radar or infra red missle attack. An aircraft, that while relatively slow (say, 100-150 mph) nevertheless can fly without radar, infra red, even accousic signature. In short STEALTHY.

An aircraft that can double as a troop transport, carrying up to 200 fully equiped personnel. And put these down, ready-to=fight, on site, without need of any "strip"

One that is DO-ABLE, right now, and has been done before. Do-able now, and at costs comparable to say, C-17 each.

Gentlemen, I give you: THE MODERN, CARBON FIBER, RIGID, SOLAR POWERED, AMPHIBIOUS,..... AIRSHIP!

Am I serious? oh, yes. DARPA "WALRUS" is a tiny fraction of what these can be, if they will abandon "hybrid" idea that still requires runway.

AIRSHIPS.....don't you just love it?

Posted by: Campbell at January 14, 2006 3:07 PM


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