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Laser Labs Go Back to the Future

George Neil and Bob Yamamoto don't remember exactly where they were when they found out that the Pentagon was canceling their laser cannon project. But they remember how they felt.

yamamoto_1.jpgIt was 1988, and Ronald Reagan's "Star Wars" anti-missile effort was in its death-spiral. Their employer, the defense contractor TRW, was competing against Boeing in an increasingly rococo effort to build a Free Electron Laser, or FEL, that would knock missiles out of the sky. But, after a half-billion dollars of investment, the laser in Neil and Yamamoto's lab was peaking out at 11 watts – a tenth of what a light bulb generates, and a billionth of what the Pentagon would need. That didn't stop company executives from promising that a weapon was right around the corner. "It was like a game of liar's poker," Neil recalls. "We kept hoping some sanity would prevail. It never did."

So there was a certain amount of relief when the Pentagon finally pulled the plug – as well as anger, and regret. Both Neil and Yamamoto believed in the FEL. Given a shot, they thought, the laser really could stop a rogue missile. Along the way, the breakthroughs required in high energy physics and optics and superconductivity would have far-reaching benefits, even if an ICBM never got zapped. Neil especially hated how reckless promises and politicking and killed that chance. As news of the cancellation sank in, the two colleagues and friends each independently made a promise to himself: If I ever get to build a laser weapon again, next time, it's going to be done right.

My article in the upcoming issue of Popular Science is about Neil and Yamamoto's attempts to stick to that promise, and build lasers that could actually be used for battle.

Ironically, both men have reached back into energy weapons' history to accomplish their goals. In the vineyards of northern California, Bob Yamamoto is constructing a solid state laser with enormous crystals at its core – the same way the very first lasers did, back the 1960’s. 2,700 miles away, in the forests of southern Virginia, George Neil is putting together a modern-day FEL. It doesn’t need any sort of material whatsoever to kickstart its reaction. Instead, the machine relies on a stream of electrons – just like the laser he and Yamamoto worked on nearly a quarter-century ago.

UPDATE 11:27 AM: Here's a video of Neil's FEL at work, coring a hole in a plexiglass brick.

UPDATE 11:42 AM: For years, chemical-powered lasers were seen as the only viable alternative for weapons-strength ray guns. The most promising of those systems, the Tactical High Energy Laser, successfully shot down dozens of rockets and mortars. (this video shows it in action.) But generating the THEL's megawatts of laser power required hundreds of gallons of toxic chemicals — ethylene, nitrogen trifluoride. The weapons grew bulky (the small-scale version was only supposed to be kept in a mere right cargo containers, each 40 feet long). Worse, after a few shots, the lasers would have to be resupplied with a fresh batch of reactants. The logistics of hauling those toxins either through the air or across a battlefield made generals shiver. So, ultimately, interest swung back to solid state systems, like Yamamoto's, and, to a lesser extent, free electron lasers.

UDPATE 04/14/06 11:33 AM: I know some folks were having trouble checking out those videos. PopSci now has 'em posted in a more watchable format.

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Posted by: touamwyp at December 31, 2006 9:59 AM


The firstvideo was to close to see any depth the second wont play. I guess it a undiscosed video.
Good info just not visable

Posted by: Dave Minear at April 21, 2006 1:19 PM


>>>Ironically, both men have reached back into energy weapons' history to accomplish their goals.

Actually, there's nothing ironic about it. The seeds of all modern and future technological wonders have their roots in the basic scientific efforts of past attempts. If we had pundits pooh-poohing the feeble attempts of researchers to connect university computers back in the seventies, the internet wouldn't exist today.

Someday, shooting down ballistic missiles will be a reality, despite the naysaying of today's nattering nabobs of negativism.

Posted by: John at April 14, 2006 12:37 AM


Try the VLC player to play the videos; it worked for me!

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

Posted by: JB at April 12, 2006 4:19 PM


Yeah I can’t get the video to play either tried WinAmp/Realplayer/WindowMedia/Explorer nothing works?

Short that I am with Dan if the Airborne Laser can shoot down incoming ICBM's in the boost phase over enemy territory with a “short range” of 200+miles at the expense of being dangerous and guys having to wear hazmat suites. That’s OK with me and I would imagine with the guy in the suite to.

The first Nuclear powered Subs were not the safest operating things either. The west has become so accustomed to the cushy life we often forget the dangerous and high-risk things we used to do to get we are today. Think of the first Explorers they traveled across the big pond often having to eat leather getting scurvy and just out right accepting certain percentage of losses (human that is). Can you imagine the West of today even considering such conditions for unknown gain?

Simple fact is I can see the draw back to having all those chemicals to shoot down a mortar or rocket in the field but to stop a ICBM inbound possibly full of Chem/Bio to X population center. Ohhh yeah its worth it hell I will put on the suite and go into the back if necessary.

Posted by: C-Low at April 12, 2006 1:51 PM


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