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More Body Armor. Ugh.

bodyarmor200a.jpgThe seemingly endless drive to encase soldiers and marines in more and more armor continues -- whether the troops want it or not. The lastest, Inside Defense tells us, is "QuadGuard," a full body suit that's been shipped out to about 5,000 marines in Iraq. There's no mention of how many of 'em are actually using the things.

QuadGuard is made out of "Dyneema," supposedly "15 times stronger than steel." Worn with the standard Interceptor body armor, it comes in two models: QuadGuard IV is a one-piece. QuadGuard V is more modular, "allowing marines to remove some parts of the equipment if they are not necessary." Total weight: about nine and a half pounds. That's on top of the approximately 42 pounds taken up by fully-loaded Interceptor gear, and the 5-6 pounds for the newly-required, side and shoulder guards. (Let's not even get into that crazy facial armor or the moon suit.)

Designed by researchers at Oklahoma State University, with some Naval Research Lab cash, QuadGuard has the potential to "reduce fatalities by 10% and serious injuries by 30-40%," its backers claim. Of course, there's mention of how many of those benefits will be given back, with the additional heat, weight, and loss of mobility that comes with all that extra gear. Could this help some ultra-exposed troops? Sure. Let's just hope the higher-ups don't start forcing everyone on patrol to stop wearing 'em. Especially not when the Iraqi summer is starting to kick in, and temperatures start climbing into the high 130's. As Sgt. Eric Daniel noted a few months back:

Something folks don't take into consideration is the tradeoffs associated with wearing additional armor. Just before I rotated out, we were getting issued the DAPS (deltoid auxiliary something-or-other...) and the "space marine" shoulder pads. While these offered additional protection to the side of the chest and shoulders (from small arms fire and small fragments) they were so cumbersome to wear that you were effectively immobile while wearing them. In fact, it was so bulky that I could not put it on and then climb through the turrets on the LMTVs and HUMVEES; I had to put the armor on top of the vehicle, get in the turret, and then suit up. Furthermore, while my small arms protection may have gone up, I was a dead man when it came to vehicle roll overs or surviving an IED/VBIED blast. This is just with the DAPS/ shoulder armor, mind you. Now they're talking about equipping gunners with entire ensembles of kevlar armor (complete with portable AC systems). That's just insane.

UPDATE 7:42 AM: Inside Defense also passes along another interesting tidbit. Just six weeks ago, the Army said that any soldier caught wearing Dragon Skin body armor "would have to turn it in and have it replaced with authorized gear." Now, service officials are going to put the ballyhooed protective equipment through a weeklong series of tests, "to help the Army determine if the body armor meets the Army’s standards."

UPDATE 9:36 AM: Murdoc has more on the moon suit.

Latest Comments

I understand your anxiety about more armor. It does add weight and heat and it may limit your mobility to some extent, but it is not meant for everyone in every situation. I suggest that you try it out though before you get to upset about it and tell everyone that it isn't good.

Posted by: Tybie Eidson at January 17, 2007 11:09 AM


Cameron,

Please visit my site at www.tacarm.com were you can order Shrapnel Shield Ballistic Inserts that fit into the elbow and knee pockets of your Army Combat Uniform (ACU).

They will stop fragments with ballistic characteristics similar to a .44 Magnum pistol round and weigh only 7.3 ounces each.

They are flexible and comfortable and will replace the need for you to wear non-ballistic strap-on pads.

I will send them Priority Mail and you should receive them in around 2 weeks

I can custom make the upper leg Shrapnel Shield Ballistic Inserts for you that will give you protection from fragments similar to bullets fired from a .38 pistol.

I will also provide the ACU fabric and Velcro so you can have a tailor on your FOB convert your ACUs so you can easily insert or remove the upper leg inserts from your trousers.

I am the inventor of the Patent Pending Ballistic Combat Uniform which also offers ballistic protection for your lower back, hips upper legs and shins.

I wore the BCU in Iraq during 2004 while serving with the First Infantry Division.

Retired after 23 years to include service in the Ranger Regiment and Special Forces, I believe you will be impressed.

I can also provide BCU upgrade kits for Marines and Airmen to convert their uniforms.

Send me an email at tacarm@aol.com and let me know what you need.


Sincerely,

Matt Sonner
President
Tacarm, LLC

Posted by: Matthew A. Sonner at December 10, 2006 3:29 PM


where can one get leg protection? From the knees and up to bottom of vest? Please point me in the right direction. I am in iraq right now.

Thanks cameron
cameron.roberts@us.army.mil

Posted by: Cameron at November 16, 2006 11:28 AM


With all these attempts on body armor, why don’t we (this will sound stupid) develop the Star Craft complete marine system? The military wants bio chemical protection, soldiers don’t want to die, and want to remain cool in any weather.
Bulky, heavy, expensive; however High tech, high performance, safety, and capabilities. If done correctly, our troops can carry more supplies for anything. Problem I see is powering the Individual Combat Suit. If we want to protect our soldiers, lets do it. And make sure the world has more then enough reason to fear and be in awe of the American soldier.

here is a pic of what the ICS concept.

http://starcraft-legend.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/marine.jpg

Posted by: Allimar at October 29, 2006 11:36 PM


Instead of discounting the opinions of the troops in the field as bitching, why not use them to help develope new armor systems. A team of engineer types to build the prototypes, and a team of recent veterans to test. I voluteer. I'm less than a year out of the desert and if you haven't spent the better part of a year living in armor day in and day out, in the heat, trying to operate, you don't really get it.

Posted by: Jon Flynn at September 2, 2006 11:15 AM


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