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Chinese Laser vs. U.S. Sats?

"China has fired high-power lasers at U.S. spy satellites flying over its territory in... a test of Chinese ability to blind the spacecraft," Defense News is reporting. And, at least in theory, those lasers might be able temporarily take offline America's most powerful orbiting spies, like the giant electro-optical Keyhole spacecraft or radar-based satellites like the Lacrosse.

starfire-optical-range-laser3.jpgNow, the article is a little short on details. "It remains unclear how many times the ground-based laser was tested against U.S. spacecraft or whether it was successful," the story says.

And there's a touch of hyperbole in the piece. According to the article, a recent Pentagon report "acknowledge[d] China has the ability to blind U.S. satellites, thanks to a powerful ground-based laser." That's not exactly right. What the report actually says isn't quite so definitive:

Evidence exists that China is improving its situational awareness in space, which will give it the ability to track and identify most satellites. Such capability will allow for the deconfliction of Chinese satellites, and would also be required for offensive actions. At least one of the satellite attack systems appears to be a groundbased laser designed to damage or blind imaging satellites.

Nevertheless, citing unnamed "top officials," the trade journal asserts that "China not only has the [anti-satellite] capability, but has exercised it. It is not clear when China first used lasers to attack American satellites. Sources would only say that there have been several tests over the past several years."

Within the U.S. military, there's a contingent that's been worried for years about China arming up like this. The other day, I was talking to an Air Force colonel, about the Pentagon's plans for "prompt global strike" -- the ability to launch, in a matter of hours, a bolt-from-the-blue attack against an enemy thousands and thousands of miles away. Some in the armed forces talk about the strikes as a way to take out an Iranian nuclear facility, a terrorist chieftain, or a North Korean missile on the launchpad. But this colonel had a different target in mind for the instant attack: a Chinese "anti-satellite, ground-based laser wreak[ing] havoc with our constellation."

If China really is pursuing such a weapon, it wouldn't be the only country looking at lasers to interfere with enemy eyes above the sky. In a 1997 test, the U.S. fired a chemical laser at a satellite orbiting 420 kilometers above the Earth. The "laser apparently had technical difficulties," according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, "but the results of the test were startling."

A lower-power (30-watt) laser intended for alignment of the system and tracking of the satellite was the primary laser source used during the test, and it appeared that this lower-power laser was sufficiently powerful itself to blind the satellite temporarily, although it could not destroy the sensor.

These days, the Air Force's Starfire Optical Range is shooting lasers in the sky, trying to figure out how best to correct for atmospheric interference. Astronomers looking into the heavens will be the most immediate beneficiaries. But Starfire could help out anti-satellite weaponeers, too. These days, ground-based lasers aren't powerful enough -- or good enough at traveling through the air -- to permanently take out a satellite; the best the beams might be able to do is blind the thing, temporarily. That could change, if Starfire (or its Chinese equivalent) does its job right.

UPDATE 10:12 AM: Color Theresea Hitchens, the Center for Defense Information's resident spacewar guru, "not convinced – nor impressed."

The folks quoted in this story are neither space nor China experts -- and those folks are easy to find. And there is the odd timing: just as Griffin goes to China, over the earlier objections of Rummy and the P-gon. Statements like "China's burgeoning antisatellite capabilities..." -- who SAYS? Even the P-gon hasn't gone that far in its reports on Chinese Military Power.

All that said, I would NOT be surprised if the Chinese were testing a Ground-Based Laser. So are we, at Starfire Optical Range. If they lased U.S. satellites though, how do we know they were trying to blind them rather than TRACK them -- since we say Starfire is using lasers only to track sats? China doesn't have all that great tracking ability, and it needs it, not just to track our stuff but their own. There isn't any real way to tell, I don't think, what the INTENT behind such lasing would be.

NOT that it is a good thing -- lasing other people's sats without their consent, or at least specific statements of your intent to do only tracking, in peacetime ought to be off the playing field, hence the need for a code of conduct of some sort in space operations.

Finally, with regard to laser blinding -- it is not as easy as it sounds to "blind" an optical satellite with a laser. I'm no physicist, but as I understand it, imaging satellites usually work in several wavelengths, meaning first of all you'd have to have lasers in all the colors that match those wavelengths to blind the sat, not just one single wavelength laser beam. Secondly, because of the way imaging sats work, taking pictures of strips of the Earth using strips of pixels, you'd have to figure out how to blind all the pixels -- which apparently is so hard as to be well nigh impossible. And I note that as far as I know, we haven't gotten that far with Starfire, so what makes us so sure the Chinese are ahead of us there?

If you ask me, the story raises more questions than answers.

Latest Comments

One reason that the US may oppose banning weapons in space is because we already *have* nuclear weapons in space, in the form of the Ajax Project: http://www.WebFeats.com/EOD/

Posted by: Hank Mishkoff at January 23, 2007 2:37 PM


laser now missle

when will be impress

a tangle web

Posted by: edbk at January 21, 2007 7:44 PM


Knowledge is Power, Right??? Hence government employment of scientists developing advanced technology... nukes, satelites, various lasers, and other WMD to overwhelm any potential enemy if necessary and prevent them from attacking from any return address in the first place.

Governments even reverse-engineer quantum time-space travel platforms (chariots of fire) and weapons from aliens- the fallen Sons of God (the Annunaki) who create their hybrid super-human genetically engineered offspring, the Nephelim (That's where the Giants of Genesis 6 came from and the Giant Cananites in modern day Israel). Then they seek to prevent the ancient knowledge from helping humanity and they classify and supress it, for fear an ememy may find it and use it aganist them. This advanced knowledge can destroy the world if it is not properly respected and improperly used for evil purposes.

In the quest for knowledge about the plans of our many enemies, governments have intellegence services such as CIA, KGB, that use spy planes, satelites, etc...

Nicola Tesla was undoubtedly the greatest scientits of the modern era. His knowledge of the universe, plasma energy, and the time/space continuum can be used for great good as well as great evil as he well understood.

The latest generation of highly classified Super-Weapons of Mass Destruction based upon Quantum Potential (QP), Scalar ElectroMagentic Pulse (EMP), and focused Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) can render satelites, stealth bombers, nukes and lasers to be absolutely useless duds. "Modern Advanced Technologies" commonly known may become dudded or completely ineffective before they even begin to deploy anywhere because of projected or focused targeting of them from very far away (across the world) and because of defensive uses of Tesla Shield Technology over any potential target in the world (or elsewhere).

In clashes with the new generation of Super-Weapons, other weapons generally feared today are rendered totally and completely ineffective.

What does Col. Bearden say about Super-Weapons?
www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm.

Powerful Ancient knowledge is being rediscovered by man(kind?). Can man handle this knowledge without destroying himself, the planet we here call home, & other colonies on nearby spheres? That is the difference between man and mankind.

The Lord of the Universe (Jesus) will return very soon to judge his creation and bring true peace to the world. But everything going wrong in the world goes worse before it gets better.

NASA and current world government institutions including the Vatican are desperately trying to hide or downplay The Sign of His Coming that they all see. Growing public knowledge of all these things will soon change everything and upset the balance of power in the world when common people find out that we did not come from apes, but were planted here by the Collective Sons of God tens of thousands of years ago before the coup attempt in heaven. After that, Advanced Civilizations have been destroyed by global cataclysms throughout progressive 3600 year cycles on planet Earth. The NWO hopes to be in complete control before the next great global cataclism culminating around 12/21/12.

Aliens (fallen angels or the "gods") will be a big part of the Great Deception of the end-times. They will finally "reveal" themselves in a huge worldwide televised event before 12/21/12 and bringing cures to diseases and various advanced technologies. They will say they come in "peace" and to "save" the world from complete destruction. Many people all over the world, will fall for it (the Bible says even the very Elect if that were possible- speaking of self professed "Christians" who are really materialistic apostates). Their true plans of the aliens are to have the world divided in "peices" and "enslave" the world under the political leader that has a wonderful 7 year "peace" plan between "Cristians", Muslims, and Jews to share Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. Antichrist (the counterfeit) comes before the True Christ. He and his global government will use advanced 3D mind control imaging (that some governments already know about), which will be honed in more effectively through "The Mark", otherwise known as Positive ID Implant (Verichip?) that will be needed to buy or sell in the post dollar global economy. People who have the mark will lose their own soul, the ability to think/act for themselves. All the NWO people need to finally clamp down and implement "The Plan" is a global crisis! That can be easily achieved, as evidenced in the world news today!

Yes, it is part of "The Plan" of the global elites (illuminati-masons) to crash the dollar through hyperinflation very soon (replacing it with the Amero) and start unending wars, trade wars, and global chaos in a global recession that plunges the world into a global depression. Then the self-appointed global shephards will have a "solution" for all the hungry desperate sheople. An age old plan for unified global government and complete and total dominance (antichrist) "Out of global Chaos will emerge a New World Order".

Nostradamus spoke of "The Bearded Comet" that is hurtling towards the Earth right now (it has a red dust cloud surrounding it). This "comet" is otherwise known by the world's previously advanced cultures as The Destroyer or planet Nibiru. This brown dwarf star, or 10th planet is being hidden from us by NASA as they now regularly airbrush it out of SOHO Satellite imagery. Is there Global Warming? Yes, but not from the atmosphere because of normal human activity. The Sun and all planets are getting hotter as Nibiru gets closer because the poles are all trying to line up, which will culminate in a great polar shift on earth, causing the worldwide earthquake spoken of in Revalation, three days of complete darkness as the moon turns blood red from the poisonous comet trail.

Repent and Pray, as the true God of the Universe makes a way for his protected children who listen to him were there seems to be no way. It is not the End of the World coming but rather the End of the Age. Jesus and true peace will reign when his mothership comes down over ancient Jerusalem after the Great Deception.

"Look up for your redemption is drawing nigh!" Matthew 24

The good angels have advanced technology too...
Look up, pray, and say: "Beam Me Up, Jesus!!!"

Posted by: Gen. Michael at December 22, 2006 12:20 PM


HELSTF links for posterity ...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/miracl.htm
http://helstf-www.wsmr.army.mil/

Posted by: ben at December 19, 2006 5:21 PM


China is the main manufacturer of semiconductor monochromic output devices (LEDs and lasers). They also a great number of harmonic crystals for conversion of IR light into various other frequencies, most notably through the 808nm to 1064nm to 532nm NdPO4 + KTP frequency doubling method. Years of buying cheap toys and gadgets from China are real going to pay off for us. At least semicondutor lasers are too weak to compete with chemical lasers like MIRACL, but 40 watt - 50 kilowatt diode arrays certainly have tactical purposes.

Posted by: L at November 19, 2006 7:05 PM


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