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Terrorists Planned Fuel-Air Attack

A while back –- March ‘04 -- I noted the risk from terrorists using thermobaric or fuel-air explosives. This type of blast is much more effective at destroying buildings from the inside than normal (‘condensed’) explosives. One factor is the greater energy release from explosive mix that takes oxygen from the air, but the other is the sustained impulse that a fuel-air blast produces. Many structures rely on gravity for their structural strength -– arches are a good example –- or have very limited ability to withstand a horizontal load. A fuel-air blast has long enough duration to cause such structures to lose their integrity, and basically they just fall apart.
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Terrorists have known about these weapons for some time; five years ago the IRA were reported to be collaborating with FARC in Colombia to develop a fuel-air device, with every possibility that the ‘recipe’ would be shared with other groups.

Last month the reporting restrictions were lifted on the trial in Britain of terror suspect Dhiren Barot. His key plan was reportedly called the ‘Gas Limos Project’ in which limousines packed with cylinders of propane and explosives were to be placed in car parks underneath crowded buildings. Barot has pleaded guilty to the charges against him.

What’s interesting here is the use of gas cylinders as well as normal explosives. The 1993 plot to blow up the World Trade Center using 1300 lbs of a urea/nitric acid composition failed. A fuel-air device might be much more effective. (And indeed, out there on the fringe there really are people who think the WTC was destroyed by such devices ) However it has to be said that engineering an effective fuel-air blast is a major technical challenge. Simply sticking some explosives around a propane tank might get you an impressive fireball but it would not necessarily generate much of a blast –- this requires the gas and air to be thoroughly mixed in exactly the correct ratio over a large volume and then ignited correctly.

Meanwhile fiction struggles to catch up -- BBC TV series Spooks recently featured an episode with terrorists attempting to use a thermobaric bomb in London.

The technology may be new, but the general idea goes way back. A group of religious fanatics aimed to destroy the British Houses of Parliament and wipe out the entire government on November 5th, 1605. The blast was to be provided by 36 barrels of gunpowder stowed in the cellars below the House. The plot was betrayed, but date is marked annually with bonfires and fireworks in England –- “Remember, remember the 5th of November”

--David Hambling

Comments

Barot has been given life with a minimum of 40 years before any chance of a parole review. Several tv and radio news reports made a point that he used encryption to obscure his research and he has so far refused to release his keys to allow the police and security services to examine his computers so expect the question of freely available encryption to become a hot button topic sometime soon. Seven more defendants are due to be tried as per CPS note http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/pressreleases/160_06.html

Posted by: JQP at November 7, 2006 3:04 PM



The consensus appears to be that Guy Fawkes and the other plotters did have enough explosive to do the job ; a BBC article a few years back on an academic study into the plot - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3240135.stm -suggests that they had 25 times more than was needed to kill those in the chamber above:

"Fawkes' planned blast was powerful enough to destroy Westminster Hall and the Abbey, with streets as far as Whitehall suffering damage, they say. "

Like the Oklahoma bomber, Fawkes had learned his skill with explosives in the military

But, as with current events, things were complex, and there is a strain of thought that says the whole 'plot' was engineered by agents provocateur to allow the government to crack down on religious extremists.

And yes, RE, 'Spooks' is known as MI-5 in the US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooks

Posted by: David Hambling at November 6, 2006 2:37 PM


I think it's interesting, actually, how similar the technology that folks are writing about today is in some ways to what was used by the Gunpowder Plot conspirators. The first WTC attack demonstrates how strong a hold the idea that you can bring down a building by sticking some solid explosives at its foundations still has - and how incomplete that notion is. I often wonder what would have happened if Guy Fawkes had tried to set off his infamous IED - I'll bet ye olde Houses of Parliament would have been damaged, but I have a feeling the damage wouldn't have been nearly what the plotters hoped for (does one musty old basement really have enough oxygen to allow 37 frickin barrels of gunpowder to explode efficiently?). Really, the most tragically effective use of emplanted explosives against a structure by terrorists that I can think of was the OKC bombing - and that bomber learned much of what he knew about explosives in the US military.

There's not much of a point to my ramble, except I guess to come back to the old point that the scariest threats - even the scariest old threats - are often harder to use than you imagine, and that the real tragedies are still caused not by the types of devices Jack Bauer likes to defuse, but by the ten-pound bomb in the crowded room or the box-cutter on the airplane.

Posted by: Haninah at November 6, 2006 11:51 AM


John B - I believe we are talking about the same show. It is marketed by the BBC and A&E in the U.S. as "MI-5."

Posted by: Robot.Economist at November 6, 2006 10:49 AM


Re: "Meanwhile fiction struggles to catch up -- BBC TV series Spooks recently featured an episode with terrorists attempting to use a thermobaric bomb in London."

This wouldn't be the same series would it that recently featured Christian fundamentalists planning a terror attack that would be blamed on Muslims or Middle East terrorists that storm an embassy and threaten to kill hostages (who are really Jews in disguise)?

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1370

Posted by: John B at November 6, 2006 10:44 AM


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