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Everyone Hates Baker (Updated Again)

Wow. Everyone -- and I mean everyone -- hates the Baker Commission report. "Group studies Iraq- fails to find clue bag," proclaims the conservative Blackfive milblog. "The report is a dud," sighs the lefty Americablog. And Fred Kaplan mopes:

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The report of the Iraq Study Group... was doomed to fall short of expectations. But who knew it would amount to such an amorphous, equivocal grab bag.

Its outline of a new "diplomatic offensive" is so disjointed that even a willing president would be left puzzled by what precisely to do, and George W. Bush seems far from willing.

Its scheme for a new military strategy contains so many loopholes that a president could cite its language to justify doing anything (or nothing).

The award for today's most original Baker hate belongs to Defense Tech pal Spencer Ackerman:

Given the specific lineup of the 10 wise men and women serving on the Iraq Study Group, the most conspicuous absence is that of supermodel Heidi Klum. Sure, she has no relevant experience in foreign policy, nor any real knowledge of Iraq -- but neither do commissioners Sandra Day O'Connor, Vernon Jordan, Alan Simpson, or Edwin Meese. What Klum does have to offer is a lesson completely lost on the commission, one taught each week on her hit reality show Project Runway: you're either in, or you're out. When it comes to Iraq, it's good advice.

OK, no Heidi Klum, I can understand. My question is: Why no veterans? Why no people that have actually fought this war?

UPDATE 8:23 AM: "The military recommendations issued yesterday by the Iraq Study Group are based more on hope than history and run counter to assessments made by some of its own military advisers," says the Times.


In essence, the study group is projecting that a rapid infusion of American military trainers will so improve the Iraqi security forces that virtually all of the American combat brigades may be withdrawn by the early part of 2008...

Jack Keane, the retired Army chief of staff who served on the group’s panel of military advisers, described that goal as entirely impractical. “Based on where we are now we can’t get there,” General Keane said in an interview, adding that the report’s conclusions say more about “the absence of political will in Washington than the harsh realities in Iraq.”

UPDATE 10:02 AM: "Iraqi politicians and analysts said Wednesday [that] the report... neither addresses nor understands the complex forces that fuel Iraq's woes. They described it as a strategy largely to help U.S. troops return home and resurrect America's frayed influence in the Middle East," according to the Washington Post.

"It is a report to solve American problems, and not to solve Iraq's problems," said Ayad al-Sammarai, an influential Sunni Muslim politician.

UPDATE 12/08/06 9:42 AM: Phil Carter read the list of people consulted by the Iraqi Study Group. He's not happy.

[It's] a long and distinguished list, to be sure. But one group of people seemed to be conspicuously absent from the list.

Grunts. Not just infantrymen, but military enlisted personnel and junior officers generally. I don't see any officers below the military rank of Lieutenant Colonel listed in the ISG's report. And there are zero enlisted personnel listed. What gives? Counterinsurgencies are won or lost at the local level, so it would've made an awful lot of sense to talk with a few troops who've served at that level.

Not that Bush is listening to Baker and company, anyway.

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Yea after reading a few pages i couldnt continue reading the report. Its not really worth reading in my opinion

Posted by: mike at December 9, 2006 1:30 AM


I think Ayad al-Sammarai and Byron Skinner have made the most profound contributions to this discussion:

1) The ISG report offers answers, but no questions. They didn't take the time characterize the problems in Iraq or even a case for why their recommendations are the right ones.

My impression of the report is that the ISG wasted American dollars and time to come up with feel-good recommendations geared towards the largest and lowest common denominators. What ever happened to steely-eyed skepticism in Washington?

2) The ISG recommendations focus on American ass-saving at the expense of Iraqis. Does a realist like Baker actually think that pulling out Iraq even part way will stop the violence?

Since they aren't overly invested in their weak democratic institutions, Iraqis are sorting out their politics the old fashion way, violence. Legitimizing the Iraqi government and the democratic process may be possible, but it would undoubtedly require more resources than we've been willing to commit thus far.

The U.S. needs to put up the resources or get out in Iraq. We've half-assed it for 3 years and what has it gotten us? A bill for $400 billion and almost 3000 flag-drapped coffins. Trying to win in Iraq on the cheap has been a disservice to our men and women in uniform.

Posted by: Robot.Economist at December 8, 2006 9:14 AM


Vincente you're a moron.

Noone is saying we should nuke the hell out of anyone-everyone is pointing out that the effort in Iraq has been hamstrung and their are things that can be done to widen the effort.
Negotiating with Iran and Syria-the major suppliers of the insurgency is not the solution.

Suggesting that people who disagree with you want to "nuke 'em all" is the stupidest way to mischarachterize people who disagree with you.
Or maybe you think people feel that way-which is sad especially when the current policy in the Iraq shows it's obvious people feel differently.

This panel is not a bunch of "adults". It's a group of political fixers who have no business being involved in the decision making process. Yet somehow you elevate they to an untouchable status-when like anyone who makes a political decision or analysis, they deserve a certain level of scrutiny.

They didn't even leave the green zone for God's sake.

If you bothered to read the whole post you are commenting on, you'll note this-

"The military recommendations issued yesterday by the Iraq Study Group are based more on hope than history and run counter to assessments made by some of its own military advisers," says the Times."

The ISG hasn't a clue.

Further the ISG bases it's recommendations on the theory that Iran and Syria see an immediate stabilization in Iraq - which is not the case.

The ISG have determined that Israel is linked to the issue-which it isn't-but if it were we'd have no ability to guarantee a change in Israeli policy.

Most importantly the policy the ISG suggests rewarding terrorists and supporters of terrorists with legitimacy and negotiating power. Even an idiot like yourself must understand that this only encourages more terrorism.


"The United States had demonstrated that it is utterly incapable of performing counterinsurgency warfare, because all we understand is big fucking bradleys and big fucking planes and big fucking B-1s blowing the shit out of big fucking soviet tanks. "

The US has proven is does counterinsurgency really damn well. Unfortunately you can't win against an insurgency unless you cut off it's support-we haven't tried to remove Iranian and Syrian support, but thinking we can ferret out an Insurgency in 4 years is nuts.

OH - we have pretty fairly leveled out insurgents in most of the country-it's just three provinces that are a problem.

So you're wrong again.

It took Guiliani alot longer to clean up NY, that's more like what we need to do. Given time we can do it.

The funniest thing is the insurgency has managed to penetrate the media reporting in Iraq. Google "ap" and "jalil hussein"-you'll see how we aren't getting the whole truth. If this were a Democrat in the White House, you know we'd have a meida totally behind the war-not constant criticism and talk of quagmire from Day 1.

It's good that you're on the internet ranting and whining, pointing fingers at folks who disagree with you. It reminds me why I spent a year in Iraq fighting, knowing their were assholes at home who haven't a clue but like to yell. That's what I wa fighting for, so guys like yourself don't have to face Mecca 5 times a day-unless it's your choice. Then you'd really bitch.

You know, my sister's dog eats her baby's dirty diapers-that dog is smarter than you.

Thank you and Good Day.

Posted by: Sam at December 8, 2006 6:58 AM


SGlover you sir are the genious I should have known that a bunch of retired PROFFESIONAL POLITICIANS would be much more pure and without political bones.

Stupid me,,, to actually accept the fact that life is not perfect and thier will with anyone always be some amount of biased, imagine the thought that when looking for advice on a WAR effort to seek advice from men who have dedicated thier entire lives to the study of WAR over a politician that at best may have served under one of these selected Generals in the military or even better as a appointed cabnet member by some other Politician.

Hell man letting politicians run a war effort has worked so well through history (Vietnam being the shinning example) we should do all we can at every opportunity during a war be sure to let the politicals make all the military dicisions.

Yeah cause it's not about winning its about the warm Fuzzy.

Posted by: C-Low at December 8, 2006 12:02 AM


Blue Ribbon for WAR would be table full of 4+star Generals that all have spent thier entire lives in the study and implimentation of WAR. That is Blue ribbon that is were you get answers. F*ck the Pharmicist he can't diognose go to the DOCTOR IN HIS SPECIALTY and get treatment that will kill the DESEASE wether its a ugly treatment or not is Irrelevent.

Oh yeah. Guys like Generals Pace and Myers. Fearless guys, without a political bone in their body, who aren't afraid to say what they really mean.

Thanks for the laugh, genius.

Posted by: sglover at December 7, 2006 6:08 PM


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