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	<title>Comments on: R2-D2 vs. Mortar Rounds</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4897647549985392214&amp;hl=en&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4897647549985392214&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4897647549985392214&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The C-RAM program is still Classifed by the Army.  Google it and you&#039;ll see very few official documents on the system especially concerning the operation and employment.  While you can still find a lot of information on the Phalanx weapons system used by the Navy I think it would be professional for all involved or anyone with in depth knowledge to not discuss or speculate this topic.  The War on Terror has been very harsh on OPSEC to include members internal to the militaray.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The C-RAM program is still Classifed by the Army.  Google it and you&#8217;ll see very few official documents on the system especially concerning the operation and employment.  While you can still find a lot of information on the Phalanx weapons system used by the Navy I think it would be professional for all involved or anyone with in depth knowledge to not discuss or speculate this topic.  The War on Terror has been very harsh on OPSEC to include members internal to the militaray.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Josh - nopt true. R2D2 only has a .5km WEZ. This isi pretty much useless unless you&#039;re really looking at terminal phase interception. Also R2D2 just rips off and traces a line of fire from a pre-determined point to intercept the incoming projectile. although this makes sense, the ranges are just too short. Hence the USAR may trial a 35mm concept. Greater range, higher SSPK, and therefore more versatility.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh &#8211; nopt true. R2D2 only has a .5km WEZ. This isi pretty much useless unless you&#8217;re really looking at terminal phase interception. Also R2D2 just rips off and traces a line of fire from a pre-determined point to intercept the incoming projectile. although this makes sense, the ranges are just too short. Hence the USAR may trial a 35mm concept. Greater range, higher SSPK, and therefore more versatility.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So air bursts at low altitude, nearly ontop of the target is more dangerous, as you see a more efficient use of the blast energy. but the ranges the RD-D2 is engaging these mortar rounds at, its far to high to be a threat via airburst. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So air bursts at low altitude, nearly ontop of the target is more dangerous, as you see a more efficient use of the blast energy. but the ranges the RD-D2 is engaging these mortar rounds at, its far to high to be a threat via airburst. </p>
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		<title>By: CMD</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, it is a very nice system, however Rafael and GD showed a system with basically the same capability in 1991 at Eurosatory (HVDS/ADAMS). Miraculously it hasnt re-appeared - thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is a very nice system, however Rafael and GD showed a system with basically the same capability in 1991 at Eurosatory (HVDS/ADAMS). Miraculously it hasnt re-appeared &#8211; thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Rozanski</title>
		<link>http://www.noahshachtman.com/blog/archives/1623.html/comment-page-1#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent Rozanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I believe the defense system mentioned above is in a video I&#039;ve found that gives a very good demonstration of what it can do. Go to this address:  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4897647549985392214&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the defense system mentioned above is in a video I&#8217;ve found that gives a very good demonstration of what it can do. Go to this address:  <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4897647549985392214" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4897647549985392214</a></p>
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		<title>By: no one</title>
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		<dc:creator>no one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What we do is important and unfortunetly well known. The enemy is more advanced then you think and it doesn&#039;t help that this is put out on the web.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we do is important and unfortunetly well known. The enemy is more advanced then you think and it doesn&#8217;t help that this is put out on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: FCC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey folks, although nothing said so far is classified, keep on your toes! Muhmmad is watching, Don&#039;t let out any capabilities and limitations.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey folks, although nothing said so far is classified, keep on your toes! Muhmmad is watching, Don&#8217;t let out any capabilities and limitations.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NO the CIWS can not turn completely around in circles +/- 150 degrees.( 0 being it facing forward) If they modified CIWS to hold 20,000 RND how could it possibly move up and down in elevation? The drum would be too long. Also the guy who said itâ€™s too big. Well it is 8FT wide and 10FT long, plenty of room to fit in a flat bed truck. Would also have plenty of room to have the Local Control Panel/PASS on the truck as well. It weighs aprox. 13,363LBS What I wonder about is how they cool the system. It is cooled via Sea water or chilled water on board ship.  It&#039;s not exactly cool there in the summer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO the CIWS can not turn completely around in circles +/- 150 degrees.( 0 being it facing forward) If they modified CIWS to hold 20,000 RND how could it possibly move up and down in elevation? The drum would be too long. Also the guy who said itâ€™s too big. Well it is 8FT wide and 10FT long, plenty of room to fit in a flat bed truck. Would also have plenty of room to have the Local Control Panel/PASS on the truck as well. It weighs aprox. 13,363LBS What I wonder about is how they cool the system. It is cooled via Sea water or chilled water on board ship.  It&#8217;s not exactly cool there in the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An idea from left field.Why not leave mortar rounds lying around that explode once they hit the firing pin in the mortar tube?I&#039;ll take a guess and say that their inventory skills are not their strong point.M.A.C.V./S.O.G. did the same thing in Laos and Cambodia.&lt;br /&gt;
O.K....there is a weak point in all this;the false mortar rounds could be used as I.E.D.&#039;s .Which means that you get around this by setting up booby traps hoping that the insurgents take the bait.Or,by setting up mortar tubes and other systems that explode when activated.&lt;br /&gt;
I just don&#039;t think that this tactic has been explored enough in recent years.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea from left field.Why not leave mortar rounds lying around that explode once they hit the firing pin in the mortar tube?I&#8217;ll take a guess and say that their inventory skills are not their strong point.M.A.C.V./S.O.G. did the same thing in Laos and Cambodia.<br />
O.K&#8230;.there is a weak point in all this;the false mortar rounds could be used as I.E.D.&#8217;s .Which means that you get around this by setting up booby traps hoping that the insurgents take the bait.Or,by setting up mortar tubes and other systems that explode when activated.<br />
I just don&#8217;t think that this tactic has been explored enough in recent years.</p>
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